Pain and Suffering-Debate 2 of 2 (Dr. William Lane Craig)
March 19th, 2009 by admin
Dr. William Lane Craig gives an excellent explanation about pain and suffering here in a debate. I have also posted an earlier debate where he addressed the same topic. Please visit www.leestrobel.com for hundreds of other excellent FREE Christian videos. Todd Tyszka www.toddtyszka.com pain suffering why good just loving God allows Dr. william lane craig debate atheist agnostic skeptic Jesus Christ Christian Bible Biblical Scripture Scriptural Job apologist apologetic apologetics debate …
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March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
“does it mean all …
“does it mean all Atheists are required to use that rule?? there are rebels in every society”
Again, this question makes no sense. What do you mean, required? How can anyone be “required” to follow the golden rule? You stated that atheists have no moral code. I stated yes they do, it’s the golden rule - treat others as you want to be treated. This is a simple, non-theistic rule for basic good human behavior. Do ALL atheists abide by it? No. Do ALL Christians abide by the 10 commandments? No.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
It is very easy to …
It is very easy to prove this. You stated that “Christians are more moral than atheists” as if it were a fact. If it is a fact, where is your PROOF? HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS AS A FACT? It’s simple. All of the atheists I know, including myself, are law-abiding, hard-working, decent, loving, kind people. They are NOT “immoral” just because they do not believe in God. There is NO EVIDENCE behind your statement that atheists are “immoral” and Christians are “more moral.”
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
hmmm,…..I lied …
hmmm,…..I lied about that?? I’m sure it’s pretty relevant all around us.
and to make me a “Blatant liar”, you must prove how I am wrong, which you have not
And yes, I am Christian indeed ty
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
does it mean all …
does it mean all Atheists are required to use that rule?? there are rebels in every society
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
btw, why not answer …
btw, why not answer my question about how you know for a FACT that Christians are more moral than atheists.
I think we both know why. You have no such proof, that is not a fact at all, and you blatantly LIE in order to make your religion seem more desirable. How very Christian indeed.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
why do you assert …
why do you assert that Atheists use the Golden rule(your asssumption) when Atheism is a disbelief in God??
That question does not make sense. Why would atheists NOT USE the golden rule, just because they don’t believe in god? HUH?
‘Is the death metal punk” WHAT???? That question is even MORE bizarre…..What the are you talking about?
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
and did you even …
and did you even pay attention to the video??
First of all, my argument….tell me, why do you assert that Atheists use the Golden rule(your asssumption) when Atheism is a disbelief in God??
Is the death metal punk who respects noone just as Atheist as someone like….say, Warren Buffet? If not, why not?
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Atheism is not …
Atheism is not bound by any common ground rules.
Yes it is. It is based on the Golden Rule. THAT is a “common ground rule.” Probably the most useful one ever - much more useful than 70% of the 10 commandments…..
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
And most of the …
And most of the Catholic Priests who were molesting/raping little boys entrusted in their care were of the CHRISTIAN faith also……
so what’s your point? Christians are more moral than atheists? Not true. And you don’t have ‘facts” or “evidenc” to back up those claims, you just pulled them out of your ass…
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
FACT? Tell me where …
FACT? Tell me where you got that information from - if it’s a FACT then it is published based on research. What is your source?
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Atheists often say …
Atheists often say they are more moral and yet they say Atheism is not bound by any common ground rules.
Christians are generally more ethical and don’t act on impulse/temptation as much as Atheists= FACT
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
what does that have …
what does that have to do with this anywayz
this is America, you’d expect that at least a decent living place, and noone is free of pain/suffering who have lived quite a while.
“My bet is he lives in a very nice house, lots of money, drives a nice car, doesn’t go hungry, etc etc”
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like 150 Million Americans across the nation I suppose
And by the way, most of the large companies sending aid to humanitarian relief are of Christian origin or coordination
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
I think he’s just a …
I think he’s just a best known, or at least the most active. I know a couple other good Apologetics
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
no emotional …
no emotional arguments or personal belittlement…
Please prove that your god exists, that your god is the only god, that your god has any of the powers that you claim for him/her, that your god has had any relationship with this planet in general or humans in particular. All evidence/observations need to be testable and repeatable. Thanks.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
testing
testing
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Dr. Craig is by far …
Dr. Craig is by far the most gifted Christian apologetic today. I like how he debates with reason and respect.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
And just how much …
And just how much pain and suffering has good ol’ Dr. Craig endured? My bet is he lives in a very nice house, lots of money, drives a nice car, doesn’t go hungry, etc etc
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
WHAT? Are you …
WHAT? Are you KIDDING? They don’t have rational, logical arguments? Of course they do. You don’t know what you are saying and you sound like a completel fool.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Provided you accept …
Provided you accept the nonsense that is original sin/the fall and free will, this all seems remotely plausible until we get over our absurdly anthropocentric view (which his opponent obviously couldn’t) and realize that most suffering occurs in other animals. When the theologian tries to explain why God created a parasite that can only exist by eating the eye of a living mammal millions of years ago (a parasite that inflicted similar suffering no doubt existed), his arguments die there and then
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Amen, toddtyszka! . …
Amen, toddtyszka! … it truly is so easy, yet overwhelmingly complex at the same time to understand and submit to Christ.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
so, why didn’t God …
so, why didn’t God secure everybodies eternal life, and eternal happiness by just putting everybody in heaven right away when he made them.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
he sounds like …
he sounds like another person shooting out stats and that. I think arguers like this are in dangerous territory if they cannot better argue the points that athiests make. I for one believe in god but after 3 of this guys videos i see alot of debate room for athiests.
Athiests are those who absolutely refuse to accept the existence of a creator; their justification grounds shrink by the day it is of no importance to an athiest. Much like christians at the hands of the fruition of darwinists.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
This is true. …
This is true. Athiests often build their entire arguement on the belittlement of the creationists intellect . Sometimes they are subtle remarks, other times obvious insults. But without forming their own “platform”, the truth is they would have nothing to stand on.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
He makes a great …
He makes a great point…Atheists have MANY emotional arguments to the non-existence of God…they do not, however, have many rational, logical refutations.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:16 am
pantsinner through …
pantsinner through the Bible you can see that God does NOT WANT to wipe us out. He wants us know Him and be saved. “I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live.” (Ezek. 33:11)