3-3 FreeMasons -VS- Christianity DEBATE

January 31st, 2009 by admin

Dr. Walter Martin Debates representative of the Masonic Lodge on the Compatability of Masons Teachings with the Bible.

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25 Responses

  1. Callsecurity2009

    From what year is …
    From what year is this video?

  2. mikeybrumbrum

    You are SO stupid …
    You are SO stupid to criticise me like that.
    What i s GOD, if not an alien ?
    He doesnt live here, and so by definition, is ALIEN. That doesnt have to mean GREEN alien, just alien from thsi earth. As far as I know he has NEVER claimed ot have set foot here. He just created it, rememebr ?
    And you CAN be a Catholic Mason NOW, but not abut 30 yrs ago, you couldnt. One of the poes decided to allow it.
    So, read my words CAREFULLY, and you may see that i do not intentionally deceive.

  3. Toledowrap

    ha ha the church …
    ha ha the church tells you it is wrong to say or to have brothers of all faiths and beliefs come together to do good things but it is ok to believe in aliens right? Come on now, the church used to kill people for having free thought, even put Galileo in prison for saying the earth revolved around the sun and that the earth was not the center of the universe. Know the truth before posting, you can be a catholic and be a mason.

  4. Toledowrap

    you made me laugh …
    you made me laugh with your sillyness. Are priests who molest kids not evil? Why does the bible not condem raping children? and you are saying the masons are evil? are all priests rapists?

  5. JCouraged

    Jesus warned us …
    Jesus warned us about false prophets and false teachers like Mohammad and Baha’u'llah!

    Why do you fear the TRUTH?

    Ephesians 5:13-14 “But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible - for anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says, ‘Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.’

  6. mikeybrumbrum

    freemasons are EVIl …
    freemasons are EVIl.
    Catholics were once banned from joining them, by the pope.
    Now they allow it, but only because each man must eb allowed to choose his faith.
    And if he chooses to join the masons, he is leaving christianity in his heart, and is bowing ot the devil gods and must burn in forever im afraid !
    stinking dirty viel freemasons !
    The round table is another part ofthe masons !!

  7. mandm1704

    ha ha i knew you …
    ha ha i knew you couldnt be a mason and a christian

  8. ashlar32

    Some people here …
    Some people here are wasting alot of God given precious time bashing something they know absolutely nothing about(sinful). It really is a shame that some men who are genuinely interested in Freemasonary may turn away from it (and their own betterment)because of the negetive comments of this video. To them I tell you Freemasonary is NOT a religion, church, cult, or otherwise. It is a fraternity, see my earlier post. And BTW, LDS’s are permitted to become Masons. I know very well some who are.

  9. tallerideas

    I should add that …
    I should add that the bible implisitly states one is not to add or take away from God’s word. We are to worship God in spirit & in truth. If not, you are not worshiping God.

  10. tallerideas

    Masons don’t follow …
    Masons don’t follow the bible, they cherry pick it just like other cults. There very similar to the Mormons, LDS members don’t actually know much about their religion until indowed with a bunch of temple rituals, if they accept their new teachings by then there so deep in Satans cluches it’s very hard for them to ever come out of it. The LDS&mason rituals are almost identical due to Joe smith being a mason & copying the ritual. cause of this to this day an LDS is not permitted to become a Mason.

  11. Toledowrap

    I don’t here you …
    I don’t here you talking about any Black Panther members, or of the african Amercicans who refer to WHITE PEOPLE as devils, or the ones who have said that ALL white people should be taken out. As far as Pike and the KKK, I don’t care, That he communicated with Prince Hall Masons and that he commanded native Americans during the war, has it’s own merits to stand against the propaganda. And this nonsense of Pike summoning demons, LOL very funny, if you believe that YOU are the one alseep.

  12. bluehorse888

    WHat did Pike do to …
    WHat did Pike do to offend me? lol
    Well I guess we could start with his involvment as a leading member of the klu klu klan. Then the fact that he was a devout stanist who constantly wore a baphomet and a bracelet which he is said to have used to summon demons.

    You don’t want to hear this truth about masonry, because it’s ugly, disturbing, and makes you lose faith in your brotherhood. So go back to sleep, and try not to study any of this, it might wake you…

  13. jackesdmollay79930

    T:.T:.G:.O:.T:.G:.A …
    T:.T:.G:.O:.T:.G:.A:.O:.T:.U:.

  14. Toledowrap

    Not being a Mason …
    Not being a Mason or being open minded will not let you see the truth about anything. What did Pike do to offend you?

  15. Toledowrap

    it’s funny that …
    it’s funny that just as many cops and lawyers and judges ARE NOT masons. The only problems with Pike and Adam are the ones people have made up through the years. I am all for truth but when you decide to add extra crap to make it more evil or more scary, the untrustworthy then becomes you who WILL LIE about ANYONE to get your way. Seems you knowledge of Majic and masonic rituals is a bit mixed up. That is just a bit of propaganda there.

  16. bluehorse888

    Its funny that you …
    Its funny that you should call it a “cop out”, seeing as how many police become freemasons. Also a huge amount of lawyers and judges in the US are freemasons. Not to mention politicians.This creates a very real conflict of interest for the pursuit of justice against any offending freemasons!
    You know who weishaupt was, and that doesn’t bother you? How about Albert Pike? How about the fact that initiation rituals are actually steeped in magick that you’re all suposidly totally uninterested in?

  17. Toledowrap

    …none of the evil …
    …none of the evil things I read about on many articles and papers regarding Masonry. Of course the cop out for antimasons is that we are liars cause we are told to lie. We do swear to keep secrets, but just any any friend or relative would keep a secret. You will have to give me a little more than vauge inuendos of so called connections. I have read enough on the templars to just concern myself with their innocense at the hands of the church. I know of Adam and know of what he planned.

  18. Toledowrap

    There lies the …
    There lies the problem friend, no one cares of so called connections nor majic squares. As Masons we just get together once a month or so and hang out, plan events for our families to participate in and do some charity work, whether cutting grass at orphanages, visiting the elder at homes, or give money for the treatment of burnt kids, or other ailments. Regardless of what many like you might believe, there is no hokus pokus going on. I even went for the so called HIGHER degrees and found…

  19. bluehorse888

    Start with Ignatius …
    Start with Ignatius of Loyola and the Jesuits, then knights templar, malta and RC. Work your way all the way to Weishaupt. AND following relationships and connections. Possibly even more important is to study the symbolism connected to masonry, which is representative of their “divine knowledge”. If you study the symbolism, you’ll understand the meaning.

  20. bluehorse888

    Lol, I’m 25 and I …
    Lol, I’m 25 and I own my own 200,000+$ business.

    Look, I know that most likely you are a good person, as almost all masons ARE.

    But please, if you’re going to be involved in this nonsense at least take the time to do some REAL research. I can point you in the right direction. You have to go all the way back to the founding of the catholic church orders.

  21. Toledowrap

    listen here you mr. …
    listen here you mr. 39 yr old guy still living with your mom pretending to be a girl to pick up boys, Just cause you googled anti masonic stuff and saw some youtube vids, does not make you an expert on who knows what in masonry. Dipshits, as you have put it, like YOU are the ones feeding this myth that Masons have anything to do with this NWO B.S. Stop acting like you understand things, since you are not a Mason but just a puppet of B.S. propaganda who just look to blame for their own faults

  22. bluehorse888

    take a look at your …
    take a look at your dollar bill dipshit.

  23. bluehorse888

    The whole thing …
    The whole thing about masonry that I think is bad is the heirarchial structure of it. You could spend your whole life as a mason, and not truly understand the meanings behind your actions because you’re simply not privy to that “divine” knowledge.

  24. ashlar32

    Wattaaa, Your …
    Wattaaa, Your kidding is well taken:)
    I see you have taken a serious interest in the Brotherhood. I understand your uncertainty regarding the secrets. Don’t worry, as the understanding is something you will learn with time should you become a Freemason. The learning is fun as well as serious. Remember, by becoming a Freemason you are raising the bar on yourself. Its fun at times, its work at times, and its always rewarding!

  25. wattaaa

    MOAR LIEK DRUIDIC …
    MOAR LIEK DRUIDIC AMIRITE?

    Just kidding. My understanding of Freemasonry at this time is that of a system of esoteric philosophy, veiled as allegorical myth, whose meanings are revealed through a system of enlightenment that is meant to teach men to overcome their baser (rough ashlar) natures, to bring them to a place where they may begin to coherently comprehend sublime truths. This alone is enough cause for me to donate to the society, but I still do not understand the reason for the secrecy.

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